Brian Murray
May 14, 2009
Five Questions on Carbon Trading with Brian Murray
By Brian Murray
Brian C. Murray Ph.D. is director for economic analysis at the Nicholas Institute for Environmental Policy Solutions and research professor at the Nicholas School of the Environment. His work focuses on the economics of climate change policy, including the design of cap-and-trade policy elements to address cost containment and inclusion of offsets from traditionally uncapped sectors such as forestry and agriculture.
Q - Does this mean shutting down the coal industry?
No. The
Q - Fuel economy standards have become a joke. How would this giant government effort be any different?
Q - What's in this for American industry? Aren't they beat up enough already?
Clearly these are difficult times for much of American industry. But the solution to its problems won't be found by ignoring long-term technology needs. Science is telling us we need to address the climate problem and the longer we wait, the worse the problem is going to be, and the more expensive it will be to solve it. Virtually all of the economic modeling of climate policy proposals shows that these problems can be addressed and still allow the economy to grow at the type of long-run robust rates we have enjoyed for decades. Part of this stems from using a flexible system such as cap-and-trade to address the problem. But there are also a number of ways to address the problem – increasing energy efficiency – that can greatly reduce costs and even enhance performance for many sectors of the economy.
There will be some difficult transitions for some sectors and regions. Hardships need to be addressed by investing in those areas of the economy and training workers for the types of skills that will be in higher demand in the low-carbon economy. Modernizing our industrial heartland is necessary with or without a carbon policy, but doing this with climate protection in mind can serve complementary and self-reinforcing purposes.
We also need to consider the cost of inaction. If some of the more troubling climate predictions come to pass, our society hasn’t seen anything yet. It’s very important to keep in mind the potential for catastrophic climate change. There is a trade off between the costs associated with today’s decisions and the future benefits of these actions. Almost all investments take time to recoup. It’s just impossible to know exactly what the trade offs between benefits and costs are, which makes climate policy so difficult. But it is probably best to view any costs borne today as an insurance premium against future catastrophic losses.
Q - Why carbon? Aren't methane and some other gases far worse problems?
“Carbon” is shorthand for “carbon dioxide,” or CO2, the gas most responsible for manmade global warming. Methane (CH4) is also a carbon-based gas. Each molecule is composed of one carbon atom and four hydrogen atoms. Some emitted methane comes apart in the atmosphere, producing carbon dioxide and water -- itself also a potent warming gas. It’s true that methane absorbs more than 20 times as much heat as carbon dioxide. The other greenhouse gases are more powerful than CO2 as well – nitrous oxide (laughing gas), and the fluorinated gases. But the sheer volume of CO2 emissions makes their cumulative effect much more powerful than the effects of all the other.
(Nicholas Institute Senior Associate Eric Roston co-authored these responses. His book "The Carbon Age: How Life's Core Element Has Become Civilization's Greatest Threat," discusses the science behind these policies.)
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